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LL's avatar

Lol! This feels like a poem starter.

I wish I wouldn't mind being...

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Dare to imagine things that aren't directly in front of you! I knew this as a kid, then forgot it during most of school, and now it's all I can think about.

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LL's avatar

Such a great reminder, yes :) What are you imagining now that it's all you can think about? :)

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Emergence and digital cosmogenesis, mainly. "It From Bit" and the idea that information is equivalent to energy. This is every night before drifting off to sleep.

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LL's avatar

Okay, I need to hear about both of these. Tell me more :)

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Sure thing. I need to write about digital cosmogenesis soon, and there's A LOT to it, but I have already attempted to describe the phenomenon of emergence: https://goatfury.substack.com/p/emergence

The TL:DR is that complex systems can arise from incredibly fundamental "simple" systems with very few rules. Complexity emerges, and we usually have a name for whatever emerges.

Biology is probably the easiest example to grab and discuss, where molecules that were not alive became critters that were.

ChatGPT is another really easy one: nobody thought that predictive text could lead to seemingly intelligent conversations with an AI, but that emerged, too.

Let me know if all that makes sense so far, and then let's turn our thoughts to how reality itself might have emerged.

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LL's avatar

Makes sense so far, yes. And I look forward to hearing how this affects your practical thoughts related to what you're imagining! Also I'd love to hear more about the idea of information = energy. :)

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Andrew Smith's avatar

Well, I have this idea that Maxwell's demon gives us a hint here. It "costs" energy to manipulate information, so I think the link may be more than just some kind of relational one.

Now, here's the heady part, the super duper "emergence-y" thinking (we need a new word for this!):

You start with a universe with nothing in it, and so you might want to conclude that that's the whole story. I mean, after all, there's nothing!

I mean, there's one universe with nothing in it, though, so I guess you have to clarify: there is exactly one nothing.

Okay, so we have the concept of a one, and the concept of a zero. As far as I know, you can make anything with binary information.

I think I can polish this into something regular humans can understand, and I think I'm somewhat kind of fairly close. I also think I'm maybe like the 10000th person to have this idea.

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